Goodbye Flash

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Most browsers are starting to support html5 now. Now this is bad for flash because it has been pretty much the only decent way to stream video from the internet ever. This however is no longer the case, thanks to the new video tag.

If you have a html5 supported browser (which you should) try it out. http://youtube.com/html5 Theres also quite a bit of other nice additions they added. Apparently html5 was not made by w3c, it was made by some other group when w3c refused to add commands to support web applications better. At least thats what heard. Here's a video that will play with the html5 video player: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siOHh0uzcuY.

Goodbye resource hogging non mobile friendly piece of crap!

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http://apiblog.youtube.com/2010/06/flash-and-html5-tag.html

From the article:

John Harding, Google Software Engineer wrote:

While HTML5’s video support enables us to bring most of the content and features of YouTube to computers and other devices that don’t support Flash Player, it does not yet meet all of our needs. Today, Adobe Flash provides the best platform for YouTube’s video distribution requirements, which is why our primary video player is built with it.

I also like the new video tag coming to HTML5 as an alternate and non-proprietary way to stream video other than flash, but it has yet to be as powerful and convenient as Flash in this domain. Also, Flash 10.1 is running impressively well on my Nexus One - Android 2.2 .

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Which is why it's in beta and isn't the main player for the site now . Tongue

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What I meant is that HTML5 won't replace Flash soon. It'll take a while if it ever does...

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HTML5 has a very, very long ways to go to replace Flash... don't expect anything like that to happen within the next 3 years at least. By then, some new technology will probably come out, and people will claim that it'll replace both HTML5 and Flash.

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I didn't mean that it will replace flash, I meant that it will no longer be required. Flash will probably never be replaced mainly because of the large amount of flash games on the internet.

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Ah, gotcha.

I have no preference on HTML5 itself, but I do like to see better standardization take place. Web-related stuff is just cluttered with non-standardized crap everywhere. Its pretty screwed up. So whatever can be done to help shift it into the direction of standardization, openness, and consistency is good in my book.

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word.

I like the fact that youtube would be useable from any pc without flash!

however it does manage to lock up my entire chrome at once Laughing out loud (BETA ftw)

I post the most embarrising questions here Laughing out loud

Thanks for all your nice replies (I know I would be annoyed by myself slightly Laughing out loud)

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chrome seems to be really faulty with flash as well though :S when I run flash objects in firefox I have no issue, load the exact same pages in chrome and its ridiculous. I'm glad to see a new step in the right direction, flash was good for making my first game 10 years ago, but now it rather annoys me.

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This is oldddd news actually, check this out. Fished the link from my olllllllld history. My God. Effort. http://craftymind.com/factory/html5video/CanvasVideo.html

AKA : Ace

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My eyes wont stop spinning cause of that damn checkered thing! :<

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Ariler wrote:

Most browsers are starting to support html5 now. Now this is bad for flash because it has been pretty much the only decent way to stream video from the internet ever. This however is no longer the case, thanks to the new video tag.

If you have a html5 supported browser (which you should) try it out. http://youtube.com/html5 Theres also quite a bit of other nice additions they added. Apparently html5 was not made by w3c, it was made by some other group when w3c refused to add commands to support web applications better. At least thats what heard. Here's a video that will play with the html5 video player: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siOHh0uzcuY.

Goodbye resource hogging non mobile friendly piece of crap!

Well, the WHATWG wasn't formed because they refused to add commands to support web applications, it's because the W3C were too preoccupied with XHTML, and it's stupid Draconic error handling that most of the web community hates with a passion.

I suggest any interested parties join the WHATWG mailing list, pretty good stuff, and they accept ideas from anyone (otherwise it wouldn't be an open project Tongue!) I'll post a link to their subscription form if anyone is interested.

Oh, and Flash is plenty mobile friendly, they've made versions of it for lots of standard mobile platforms (Hell, they even finished it for the iPhone, it's just that AT&T's complaints of bandwidth issues forced apple to decline distribution of it.)

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WHAT?! THE IPHONE DOESNT EVEN SUPPORT FLASH?! Laughing out loud :D Laughing out loud

I love the iPhone for the sake of it beeing the best-marketed, worst mobile phone to cross the market in years! ;D

yeah it was a bit off topic but xD

Well my Nokia NGage from 2003 still supports flash decently.

however as its an oooold os version, the early version was discontinued.
So no, my ngage cant play high quality flash stuff, but many games.

later nokia models (S 60 v 2 & 3+) should support flash to quite some extent.

I post the most embarrising questions here Laughing out loud

Thanks for all your nice replies (I know I would be annoyed by myself slightly Laughing out loud)

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Donated Statue wrote:

This is oldddd news actually, check this out. Fished the link from my olllllllld history. My God. Effort. http://craftymind.com/factory/html5video/CanvasVideo.html

That is the coolest thing I've seen in a long time. I actually expected the little squares to stop playing once they moved but after checking it each little block does indeed still play the video.

I didn't see the illusion but man that screws with you.

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Ariler wrote:

I didn't see the illusion but man that screws with you.

I think that is one of those "stare at this for a minute, then look at the wall" things.

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Spodi wrote:
Ariler wrote:

I didn't see the illusion but man that screws with you.

I think that is one of those "stare at this for a minute, then look at the wall" things.

Spodi go to bed it's 4am Tongue

I tried it though it didn't work.

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Only 1:11am for me. I usually hit the sack at about 2. So its a whole 49 minutes until my bedtime!

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Wait what? If your on the west coast you should be 2 hours behind me. Theres an hour missing somewhere lol.

Edit: Well, apparently I was wrong there is 4 times zones in the US.

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